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Subscribed. 162. 40K views 12 years ago. This review I cover the main parts or a Remington 541S, I cover the most important topics to consider before buying one. Including difference in models,...

Remington 541. Rimfire Roofuss. I bought a Remington 541X on Gunbroker about 6 weeks ago, nos, unfired and in the box with the original iron sites for $680.+ shipping. Bolt was very rough to cycle during the first trip to the range, so had my local smithy go thru it, polished up the bolt, and chamber, and works great.

Description: Remington 541X 22 S-L-LR heavy barrel target rifle. Very good condition. 2# Timney trigger. Rings and scope included. $750.00 buyer pays shipping. Price: $750.00 Buy Now. Rifle Caliber: .22 Long Rifle. Manufacturer: …

remington 541s for sale and auction. Buy a remington 541s online. Sell your remington 541s for FREE today on GunsAmerica!What is a REMINGTON 541 T Rifle Worth? A REMINGTON 541 T rifle is currently worth an average price of $898.23 used . The 12 month average price is $898.23 used. The used value of a REMINGTON 541 T rifle has fallen ($80.23) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $898.23 . To help you further understand the value of a REMINGTON MODEL 541T, we provide a breakdown based on the firearm's condition: 100% (New, unfired): 380 Login / Register to view pricing. 98% (Like new, minor wear): 300 Login / Register to view pricing. 95% (Minimal wear, well-maintained): 235 Login / Register to view pricing. The Hide Armory. All Things Rimfire. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Forum Statistics.remington 541 s for sale and auction. Buy a remington 541 s online. Sell your remington 541 s for FREE today on GunsAmerica!

Description: Remington Model 541-T, bolt action .22 caliber rifle (.22LR/22Short/.22 Long). This older Remington is in excellent condition. No box, one magazine. Used $750.00 Perry's Gun Shop is an owner operated family business with a long heritage of TOP QUALITY firearms and TOP QUALITY SERVICE. We are a stocking dealer and our …Description: Remington Model 541-T, bolt action .22 caliber rifle (.22LR/22Short/.22 Long). This older Remington is in excellent condition. No box, one magazine. Used $750.00 Perry's Gun Shop is an owner operated family business with a long heritage of TOP QUALITY firearms and TOP QUALITY SERVICE. We are a stocking dealer and our … To help you further understand the value of a REMINGTON MODEL 541T, we provide a breakdown based on the firearm's condition: 100% (New, unfired): 380 Login / Register to view pricing. 98% (Like new, minor wear): 300 Login / Register to view pricing. 95% (Minimal wear, well-maintained): 235 Login / Register to view pricing. MikeK3500. 1204 posts · Joined 2014. #5 · Dec 5, 2014 (Edited) I disassembled a couple when putting together my 541-S... had them apart in less then a couple minutes each. They are tricky, I used a small craftsmen screw driver with the diamond shape shank cross ways against the striker in one and and squeezed it back and un-spun the cap...REMINGTON MODEL 541-S CUSTOM SPORTER. 22 SHORT, LONG OR LONG RIFLE, 24" BARREL, FACTORY DRILLED AND TAPPED FOR A VARIETY OF SIGHT COMBINATIONS. GROOVED RECEIVER, 100% …

17 Sept 2012 ... They were made 1972 - 1984. Save Share.‎STD Remington 541 2-pc Gloss : Sport Type ‎Hunting : Additional Information. ASIN : B000GU8NQC : Customer Reviews: 4.5 out of 5 stars 13. 4.5 out of 5 stars : Best Sellers Rank #822,060 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #1,590 in Airsoft Gun Scope Mounts #93,416 in Hunting Equipment:Feb 17, 2024 · The Remington Model 541T can hold 5 rounds in its magazine. 4. What is the caliber of the Model 541T? It is chambered in .22 Long Rifle caliber. 5. Is the Model 541T suitable for hunting? Yes, the Remington Model 541T is suitable for small game hunting and target shooting. 6. Can the Model 541T be disassembled for cleaning? PWNolan. 10135 posts · Joined 2008. #2 · Jan 27, 2024. The difference between the two is pretty obvious. The barrel on the 541-T HB is much heavier than the barrel on the 541-T. The diameter of the 541-T HB barrel is .810". Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most . Markings: The top of the barrel is marked “REMINGTON ARMS CO. INC, / ILION, N.Y. MADE IN U.S.A. / PATENT PENDING” at the rear, and at the midsection with “Remington” and “MODEL 541-S CUSTOM SPORTER / .22 SHORT, LONG, OR LONG RIFLE”. The left side of the barrel is marked with the date code and inspection marks. Description: SOLD. A beautiful Remington 541-S Custom Sporter 22 S L LR Engraved Exc Condition a few very light marks on wood Blue is Exc 5 shot clip original buttplate They are very accurate. SOLD. Rifle Caliber: .22 Long Rifle. Manufacturer: Remington. Model: 541-S.

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Remington 541-T for sale and auction. Buy a Remington 541-T online. Sell your Remington 541-T for FREE today on GunsAmerica!R. roninflag Discussion starter. 9 posts · Joined 2010. #1 · Apr 8, 2010. i got my 541-s maybe 12 years ago and adjusted the trigger. i have a brand new 541-T hb. i went to adjust the trigger. there are the two screws on the front and no screws on the back of the trigger. i never mess with the sear engagement . but i would like to improve it ...About Us: NO HANDGUN SALES TO CALIFORNIA Please verify legality with your receiving dealer prior to ordering. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T HB .22 LR. Description: USED VERY GOOD CONDITION. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T .22 LR -- 24" HEAVY BARREL -- WALNUT STOCK -- 1 - 5 RND CLIP. HAS A LEUPOLD VARI-X 3X9 E.F.R PLEX SCOPE MOUNTED ON IT.Description: Remington 541X 22 S-L-LR heavy barrel target rifle. Very good condition. 2# Timney trigger. Rings and scope included. $750.00 buyer pays shipping. Price: $750.00 Buy Now. Rifle Caliber: .22 Long Rifle. Manufacturer: Remington. Model: 541X. Barrel Length: 26”.

A custom sporter 541-S rifle in .22 long rifle caliber, unfired and with box, is for sale by Wagner1, a private seller from Missouri. The rifle has some wood impressions and safe marks, but is in very good condition. The …Hi there, the 541-Ts come in light barreled sporter and heavy barrel (HB) configurations. I believe the 541-S only came in a sporter weight barrel. The S model is much more ornate and commands much higher prices. I have a sporter 541-T and from memory the trigger is not adjustable but there are various spring mods talked about on …REMINGTON. 541 T. Category. REMINGTON 541 T rifle PRICE AND HISTORICAL VALUE. Summary. For Sale [0] Sold [31] Charts. What is a REMINGTON 541 T Rifle …472 posts · Joined 2008. #29 · Dec 7, 2008. I was at a gun show here in Ohio Last week and a vender had two 541-T's One of them was 525.00 and the other was 550.00 and they were in plastic but the wood just looked average,not fancy. He said they had about 500 rounds through each one,they were without a scope also.Subscribed. 162. 40K views 12 years ago. This review I cover the main parts or a Remington 541S, I cover the most important topics to consider before buying one. Including difference in models,... The Remington 541S rifle is chambered for 22LR. Most 22 rifles are built with an eye toward keeping the cost low and quality good enough to work. The 541S is... Description. EGW Remington 541 Scope Bases. Add the versatility of a one-piece Picatinny scope rail to your shotgun with no drilling or tapping. Precision machined from extruded aluminum with Picatinny slot-and-rail spacing that allows fast and simple changes to eye relief, plus great flexibility in scope choice.Remington 541 5 Shot Mags I kinda thought these weren't to bad of a price as there is one on Ebay now and they are asking $75 And these are New not used 5 SHOT and not 10 shot like on Remington website now and the 10 shot are $24.99 for the nylon and 541 plus shipping.. New 5 shot magazines are very hard to come by and they fit flush.The 541T will often go for a little less than the S model, but it seems lately if you can find one in good to excellent condition you can expect to pay a minimum of $800-900 up to around $1300 or so unless you find a fiddleback maple stock version, then your wallet will scream .... This one is the Custom sporter with the engraving and fake wood ...Remington Magazine Remington 581-S, 541 22 Long Rifle 10-Round Polymer Black. Product #: 752114. Manufacturer #: R19655. UPC #: 810070687755. ( 33) Write a Review Q&A (1) List Price: $21.00. Our Price:

Description: USED VERY GOOD CONDITION. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T .22 LR -- 24" HEAVY BARREL -- WALNUT STOCK -- 1 - 5 RND CLIP. HAS A LEUPOLD VARI-X 3X9 …

Buy a REMINGTON Remington M 541 X bolt action .22 LR that was intended to be used as a military trainer. Originally for sale by BBG MFG on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 914605847remington 541s for sale and auction. Buy a remington 541s online. Sell your remington 541s for FREE today on GunsAmerica!REMINGTON MODEL 541-T. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T. SKU 150346. used excellent Used Price. $1,099.99 Out of stock. The Guns.com Promise. Guns.com pledges to make gun buying easy, to support local gun ...The latest Remington Society of America Journal has a nice piece in the "Remshots" section about the 541-S. Introduced in 1972 it sold for $135, in it's last year 1983, it sold for $374 "with diminished sales from left-over warehouse stock through 1990." I used a rear adjustable Leupold base and Leupold medium rings on my 7mm08 …The 541S is seen rarely but usually $850 plus for used with some little or no wear to new in box @ $950 to $1100. Gunbroker and private sales differ extremely as I picked this 541T that needed a little work for $500 Sent mine over to Bob Green to do a trigger job. Came back with no creep and just over a pound pull.This convienient means of carrying extra ammunition allows for fast insertion of pre-loaded clips that lock firmly during use. Made in the USA. Category : Magazines and Accessories. Caliber : 22 Long Rifle. Capacity : 10 rd. Finish : Black. Model : 541/581. Material : Metal.Description. EGW Remington 541 Scope Bases. Add the versatility of a one-piece Picatinny scope rail to your shotgun with no drilling or tapping. Precision machined from extruded aluminum with Picatinny slot-and-rail spacing that allows fast and simple changes to eye relief, plus great flexibility in scope choice.About Us: NO HANDGUN SALES TO CALIFORNIA Please verify legality with your receiving dealer prior to ordering. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T HB .22 LR. Description: USED VERY GOOD CONDITION. REMINGTON MODEL 541-T .22 LR -- 24" HEAVY BARREL -- WALNUT STOCK -- 1 - 5 RND CLIP. HAS A LEUPOLD VARI-X 3X9 E.F.R PLEX SCOPE MOUNTED ON IT.THE COST IS $40.00 RETIRED IN 2019 AFTER DOING BUSINESS AS A STORE FRONT FIREARMS DEALER SINCE 1983. $699.00. Buy a THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL AND MINT REMINGTON MODEL 541-S CUSTOM SPORTER 22LR BOLT ACTION RIFLE. THIS BEAUT for sale by MIKE BOYER on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms ...Re: Remington 541-S Custom Sporter Trigger. by 600RemGuy » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:15 am. West Luther Gun repair possibly. Not positive Wayne Hendry is still at it there but he was the Remington man years back. not spoke to …

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Remington Model 541T. Description: Remington model 541T 22 short,long,or long rifle.Built in 1992,this rifle is in mint condition.It retains 100% of the original blue and 100% of the original wood finish.The bore is mint with sharp well defined rifling.The barrel is the standard contour,not the heavy contour.The rifle has 1" rings installed and ...Apr 6, 2012 · Outback is about to release steel magazines for the Remington 541/581 series rifles. There is a pre-order discount, so those of you interested, get in line early and save a few bucks. For those wanting something better than the factory POS plastic mag, here it is. They also make the mag catch/guide parts. QRW Remington 541 2-pc Gloss. Part #. 49866. Leupold® Cross-Slot mounting systems feature Weaver-style rings that work with both Weaver or Picatinny rails with 1-piece and 2-piece bases available for many popular rifles. This model is designed to fit a Remington 541 and is ideal for standard to magnum calibers. $29.99.There’s nothing worse than needing that Remington pole saw to finish your job and then finding out it’s not working. Check out these tips to finding Remington pole saw parts, and g... Check out this page from Norbert Carter https://www.amazon.com/shop/walnutandsteelhttps://buck-rail.comhttps://youtube.com/@BuckRailAirgunsCheck out the link... As a New York State resident, you need to know that conversions of an IRA to a Roth IRA require payment of federal and state taxes at the time of conversion. Once the funds are tra...Look up a Remington serial number by using Remington Serial Number Lookup. This service uses the two-letter codes stamped on the barrel of Remington rifles and shotguns to determin...May 19, 2021 · The Remington 541 is a fabulous factory provided rifle. For sure, .22 rimfire ammunition can and will cause a carbon ring is some instances due to the inherent properties involved with .22 rimfire ammunition. Normally a carbon ring can form at the transition of the chamber, through the leade and then into the rifling. REMINGTON MODEL 541-S CUSTOM SPORTER. 22 SHORT, LONG OR LONG RIFLE, 24" BARREL, FACTORY DRILLED AND TAPPED FOR A VARIETY OF SIGHT COMBINATIONS. GROOVED RECEIVER, 100% BRIGHT BLUE, MIRROR PERFECT BORE. FRAME IS SCROLL ENGRAVED. AMERICAN WALNUT STOCK, CHECKERED GRIP AND FOREARM, FAUX ROSEWOOD FOREND, GRIP CAP AND BUTTPLATE. Remington 541, This product has either been removed or is no longer available for sale. , Sep 30, 2018. 618. Cecil County MD. I wanted to try out my Brian Voelker accurized 22LR Remington 541-T HB in PRS/MARS/NRL competition, but did not want to nick, scratch or otherwise mar the beautiful original walnut stock, which, 30 years on, is still in excellent condition. I purchased a Boyd’s laminate Varminter stock inletted for the 541 ..., Remington 581, 580, 582, 540, 541, 540x Rimfire Stock Pillar Bedding Set. Opens in a new window or tab. Brand New. $29.99. Top Rated Plus. Sellers with highest buyer ..., Mar 14, 2018 · 541 metal magazine I have one of John`s metal mags in my 541-s. Fit and function is 100% and only about an 1/8th inch protrudes below the bottom metal. Big improvement over the original in terms of aesthetics and carry ability. Overall quality of the piece is high in material and build. Remington should have provided a mag of this quality as OEM. , Leupold Quick Release (QR) Weaver-Style Two-Piece Scope Base. Visit the Leupold Store. 4.6 137 ratings. | Search this page. $4499. Color: Gloss. Style: Remington 541. Remington 541. Remington 700., A custom sporter 541-S rifle in .22 long rifle caliber, unfired and with box, is for sale by Wagner1, a private seller from Missouri. The rifle has some wood impressions and safe marks, but is in very good condition. The seller offers free shipping to the 47 and no FFL for CA., If you own a Remington 581 or 541 Rimfire .22 rifle, and you want an upgraded magazine for your vintage rifle, then this is the video for you. Come along and..., This is a very nice Remington 541-X Target bolt action rifle in .22 LR. It has a blued receiver, 27-inch bull barrel, and a 5 round magazine. It comes complete with a Williams receiver sight and globe front, target-style front sight. The rifle has a stained, walnut hardwood stock. The receiver is U.S. Property marked and was used primarily as a ..., The Remington Model 541-T is a scarce 22lr bolt-action rifle. Brought to you Remington, the American firearms manufacturer whose products are found in hands of sportsman across the country, this ..., Description. EGW Remington 541 Scope Bases. Add the versatility of a one-piece Picatinny scope rail to your shotgun with no drilling or tapping. Precision machined from extruded aluminum with Picatinny slot-and-rail spacing that allows fast and simple changes to eye relief, plus great flexibility in scope choice., remington model 541-s custom sporter description: remington model 541-s, custom sporter 22 short, long or long rifle. 24" barrel, 100% bright blue, mirror perfect bore. grooved receiver with deep-cut scroll engraving. barrel and receiver are factory drilled and tapped for a variety of sights and scope mounts., Remington model 540 XR. Remington model 540 XR JR. Remington model 541S. Remington model 541 T. Remington Model 550-A. Remington Model 550-1. Remington Model 550-2G. Remington model 552. Remington model 572., Re: remington 541T-hb. Received the rifle Monday and it is awesome... better than expected! The wood looked good from the blurry photos that were taken about 20 feet away, but I had high hopes and was not disappointed. GunBroker Rocks! Now just need to mount my scope and see 'what she'll do.'., Only five publishing houses produce 53% of scientific papers. For anyone in the publishing industry looking to get rich quick—or, at the very least, turn a profit—the secret to suc..., This is the Boyds Hardwood Gunstocks - Remington 541-S Clip Feed Short Action - Rem 541-S (short action) clip feed stock in the popular BHI "T" configuration. What differentiates this stock from all the other stocks offered by Boyds Hardwood Gunstocks is the solid one-piece wood structure that is perfect for long life and dependable shooting., Mar 31, 2011. #1. I have owned 3 Remington 541-X rifles off and on. My last one I swore that I would convert the gun to use a "real" steel magazine over the Nylon thing Rem. supplies with it. The following pics show how I made a simple part and used a standard part to reach my goal. Basically you need to shorten the "tail" or mag guide on the ..., 3,871. Location. Massachusetts. So, I have a very nice condition Remington 541S Custom Sporter .22 that was left to me by my grandfather (Very nice, but not mint. A ding or two on the gun, no box or anything for it). Hadn't shot it in about 15 years, but got it out of the safe and took it to the range. Damn, one hell of an accurate little gun ..., For comparison the accuracy is about the same as a CZ 452 or 455. The stock on the rem is plainer and the magazines on the rem are plastic. The 541 trigger feels a little better than the CZ. I definately wouldn't pay the 450-500 that folks want for a 541 today, not that good of a gun. But they're not bad either., Remington Rifles. Remington 541X. Jump to Latest Follow 3K views 18 ... At one time, Gunpartscorp still had Remmy 541S stocks available, and with suitable mods [cutting a notch for the X's rear peep & blowing out the barrel channel to handle the X's heavy barrel contour] you ended up with a stock that was lighter, handier and let you get …, Feb 17, 2024 · The Remington Model 541T can hold 5 rounds in its magazine. 4. What is the caliber of the Model 541T? It is chambered in .22 Long Rifle caliber. 5. Is the Model 541T suitable for hunting? Yes, the Remington Model 541T is suitable for small game hunting and target shooting. 6. Can the Model 541T be disassembled for cleaning? , DIYer Steve Hoefer has been hard at work making every 6 year old's dream come true: A device that unlocks your door whenever someone seeking entrance taps out the secret knock. DIY..., Remington 541-X Steel magazine conversion. I have owned 3 Remington 541-X rifles off and on. My last one I swore that I would convert the gun to use a "real" steel magazine over the Nylon thing Rem. supplies with it. The following pics show how I made a simple part and used a standard part to reach my goal., This convienient means of carrying extra ammunition allows for fast insertion of pre-loaded clips that lock firmly during use. Made in the USA. Category : Magazines and Accessories. Caliber : 22 Long Rifle. Capacity : 10 rd. Finish : Black. Model : 541/581. Material : Metal., I’m pretty mediocre. I’m ashamed to admit it. I’m not even being sarcastic or self-deprecating. I’ve never done anything that stands out as, “whoa! This guy made it into outerspace..., About Us: When calling ask for the Gun Library. Remington ~ Model 541-T ~ .22 Short, Long or Long Rifle. Description: This Remington Model 541-T was manufactured in March of 1992 and remains in excellent overall condition. Gun is as new excerpt for light scuff on left stock under receiver. Blue and bore are excellent., Remington 541T .22LR Curly Maple for sale and auction. Buy a Remington 541T .22LR Curly Maple online. Sell your Remington 541T .22LR Curly Maple for FREE today on GunsAmerica!, A forum discussion about the performance of Remington 541s and 541t bolt-action rifles in .22 caliber. Users share their experiences, opinions and comparisons with other brands and models., Remington 541-T for sale and auction. Buy a Remington 541-T online. Sell your Remington 541-T for FREE today on GunsAmerica!, Remington Model 541T. Description: Remington model 541T 22 short,long,or long rifle.Built in 1992,this rifle is in mint condition.It retains 100% of the original blue and 100% of the original wood finish.The bore is mint with sharp well defined rifling.The barrel is the standard contour,not the heavy contour.The rifle has 1" rings installed and ..., Remington 541-X Steel magazine conversion. I have owned 3 Remington 541-X rifles off and on. My last one I swore that I would convert the gun to use a "real" steel magazine over the Nylon thing Rem. supplies with it. The following pics show how I made a simple part and used a standard part to reach my goal., The 541S is seen rarely but usually $850 plus for used with some little or no wear to new in box @ $950 to $1100. Gunbroker and private sales differ extremely as I picked this 541T that needed a little work for $500 Sent mine over to Bob Green to do a trigger job. Came back with no creep and just over a pound pull., The Remington 1911 R1 had a single jam occur with full metal jacket ammunition during a test shoot with GunDigest. Another problem encountered with the R1 includes an 80-style inte..., R. roninflag Discussion starter. 9 posts · Joined 2010. #1 · Apr 8, 2010. i got my 541-s maybe 12 years ago and adjusted the trigger. i have a brand new 541-T hb. i went to adjust the trigger. there are the two screws on the front and no screws on the back of the trigger. i never mess with the sear engagement . but i would like to improve it ...